Jinny -- Greenbelt, MD
12/1/03 -- 10:04:23 AM

To Mr. Weigand

You don't seem to know what you are talking about.  You say the state of Maine has been overrun by liberals.  It would follow from your argument that Maine (run by "real" Mainers in the past) was always a politically conservative state.  That's not true.  From my experience, Mainers are neither particularly conservative or liberal.  I would suggest you take a class on Maine history.

Also, it would follow from your argument that vast numbers of people from out-of-state (the kind of numbers needed to politically overrun) are moving in.  That is not happening either.

As for George Bush, I lived in TX while he was governor.  He's not all that.  He's just a rich man putting on a front and a lot of people are buying into the whole "cowboy" thing.

I agree with the others on this site.  You should stay in the South.
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terri ( yankeeexiles@yahoo.com ) -- Williamsburg, VA
11/30/03 -- 09:05:40 PM

in regards to the political comments that have been made. I hate the war and the killing of our boys. One thing confuses me though. Under Saddams rule he killed alot of his own innocent people, he was an evil man. This country went into this for the wrong reason but we did stop him from his mass murder of iraqies. If anyone out there thinks politicians are out to help us needs to think again. They all have their own agendas including Dean.Its not just Bush look at the senators and congressman like they really care about us common folk.
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PH -- Blauvelt, NY
11/30/03 -- 06:46:50 PM

Hello fellow Mainers! I was born and raised in northeastern Maine. I moved to New York because I married a gentleman from New York. I miss my family and friends, the Maine hospitality and the slower pace of living the most. I came upon your site while doing a search for "whoopie pies". My mother recently told me of a website where you can order whoopie pies. I was curious about this site because I have been making whoopie pies for years and never thought of selling them. I will now continue to search your site for more interesting goodies.
Have a great holiday season from a "Mainer at heart"!!
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D. Miller ( sachia1782@cs.com ) -- Rowland, NC
11/29/03 -- 06:19:06 PM

George Wiegand........please stay in South Carolina. Now I know why I have never liked the South. Maine exilers who feel the way you do about thier home state should do Maine a favor and stay away for good!!
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Wayne St. Clair ( wane9779@hotmail.com ) -- Roanoke, VA
11/29/03 -- 06:28:28 AM

 A few months ago i was walking through our city market & as I approached a group of people I was asked if I would sign a petition to get Howard Dean on the primary ballot down here. Now I do not know yet if I am going to vote for him or not, but I do know I am going to vote & I know I am not voting for Bush. Well since I am a card carrying old hippy liberal & a firm believer in real democracy not the "democracy" the media forces down our throats, a black & white world view that rejects all alternatives as impractical, I signed the petition. While signing it one of his supporters described Dean as fisical conservative & a social liberal & asked if I had ever heard of such a beast. I replied that I had lived for almost 20 years in Maine & was quite familiar with them. That is one of the things I found most refreshing living in Maine...to hell with a knee jerk conservatism that compulsivily rejects (and viciously attacks) anything or one who disagrees with them. 

This area is extremely conservative & quite vocal about it. For a long time now I have felt obigied for peace sake to whisper my objections to their depredations if I was in public. After March of this year when those of us (myself included) who objected to George's splendid little war & did so publically with protests & signs were verbally abused, egged (yes, eggs were thrown at us) & denounced as traitors (I am a vet thank you) I don't care anymore, now I proclaim my objections publically & loudly & don't care who hears. Their behaviour (I was actually told of course you have free speech so shut up already) was the antithesis to the democratic ideals they profess. 

These people would not know what to do if they were confronted with a good old fashioned yankee town meeting, not one of those pre-fab ones they have on TV, but the real thing. The first time I ever attended one I thought it was so cool I attended them regularly there after. I was trying to describe them to somebody down here & said those old yankee freeholders really hold their politicians accountable & if one chooses to ignore those town meetings he won't be in office long. The ideal at those meetings is as one old farmer told me once...you have the right to say anything you want & I have the right to tell you that you're full of it. The hard right that siezed the government in 2000 wouldn't be able to handle that. They wrap themselves in the flag dismiss all those who object to their abuses as un-american, of not being patroits & of probably supporting terrorists. 

The people in Maine should be proud of Susan Collins for standing up & objecting to these people so often. I would bet that there will be an attempt to unseat her from the right the next time she comes up for re-election, nor would it surprise me if she bolts the republican party & becomes an independant. Fisical conservatives & social liberals I have found are a nice balance between both extremes...lets pinch our pennies but lets take care of our own too...a simple human decency that Bush & the hard right dispite attempting to repackage themselves as compassionate conservatives (yeah right) are toatally blind to. After all if a poor state like Maine can implement universal health coverage then there is no reason why it can't be done nationally except for our bought & sold politicans. I don't know about anybody else but I am sick of wearing a proverbable clothespin on my nose when I vote & having to choose between the lesser of two evils or the evil of two lessers. Enough said.
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Wayne St. Clair ( wane9779@hotmail.com ) -- Roanoke, VA
11/28/03 -- 06:37:54 PM

In regards to George Wiegand Sr. posting all I can say is....OH PLEASE!!!
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Nancy Slater ( nancyslater222@hotmail.com ) -- St. Petersburg, FL
11/28/03 -- 05:25:20 PM

born in augusta, lived in portland and bangor. left in 1979, was divorced and tired of shoveling snow, kids grown.  i have an easy receipe for whoppie pies, sometimes you can find fiddleheads in can.  miss fall in me the most eating lobsters, i can but lobsters here on sale for 6.99 lb
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Steve White ( maineiac@bellsouth.net ) -- Dallas, NC
11/28/03 -- 10:06:48 AM

To George Wiegand:
AMEN!!!!! But I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly when you say that Bush is an honorable man. I believe that he's the buffoon, and he mistakenly believes that "we the people" are behind him. Real statistics on Presidential IQ's:
The lowest president's IQ- George W. Bush @ 98!!!!!!! The highest- Bill Clinton @ 160. I'm not saying that brains and honor go hand in hand, but I, as many others, believe that Bush has led us down the primrose path that may ultimately lead to the destruction of this country as we know it. Remember this- he's an oil baron- so what do you think we're really doing in Iraq?...........Before we invaded Iraq to supposedly depose this tiranical leader, how many innocent Iraqi people were dying at his hand (recently)? Not many. How many are dying now? Too many. Let's clean up our own back yard before we break down our neighbor's fences and try to clean up theirs. The world wants us to stay out of their business- unless they ask for our help. Vietnam II- here we come!!!!
All in all, the great thing about this country is that we all have the freedom to express our views, and George, although I disagree, I respect yours.

Cheers,
Maineiac
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Jo ( jamcat60@yahoo.com ) -- Imperial, PA
11/28/03 -- 10:03:12 AM

Hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving. Personally, I found out too late that no one here sells or has heard of Bells Stuffing..but we made do. And when I boiled onions, they were puzzled. "What do you do with them?" Eat them, of course. Doesn't everyone eat boiled onions with their Thanksgiving meal? Not in western PA, obviously. I've been here 5 years, and folk are nice, but it's not Maine. I get my snow blower out just to make sure it still runs.Mostly it rusts quietly in a corner of the garage.
Would love to hear from other exiles....or better yet....mountain dulcimer players in Maine. I play a bit, ayuh.
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Jason -- Sacramento,  CA
11/28/03 -- 08:22:35 AM

Hi George.

I am glad you are in S.C.  Maine's a better place for it.

Peace out.
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Arch  -- Joshua, TX
11/28/03 -- 08:04:34 AM

Mr Weigand
 About your honorable? President. You forgot to mention that he is still technically AWOL (away with out leave) from the Texas Air National Guard. Also that he has no moral right to be sending troops in harms way because he used the ANG as a way to get out of Vietnam.
 I do not know the political climate in Maine so I cant speak of that, but if all that you based your leaving on is that, you are reading from the wrong political text.
     Peace   Arch  Origionally from Aroostook County.
 PS Even Al Gore spent his tour in Viet Nam.
 PPS I am neither Republican OR Democrat, I am at my age a realist.
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George Wiegand Sr ( bullscycle@hotmail.com ) -- Marion, SC
11/28/03 -- 01:44:15 AM

From a former Mainer from the old school , As I for most of my life lived in Maine , I regret to say , other than many friendships and aquaintances, I really do not miss Maine , Not due to Maine's natural beauty ( though i do not really miss the cold ) Its the political climate that has taken Maine from the real Mainers and given control to the outside so called city northerners (Bostonians&NewYorkers Etc) like ten or so years they overran Vermont , now they are overunning Maine, yes the ultra left liberals socialists hardcore one sided enviornmentalists and the rich who look down on the common working what once existed in Maine widespread , The true Mainer had become the minority in his own home state, How sad, Yes most likely Maine will support a baffoon like Howard dean in its Democratic primary caucus and if ( god forbid) he wins to run against Bush , I have a feeling that Maine will end up a state that will fall to the winnings of Howard Dean rather than the honarable president we have now, How sad , but well thats my opinion, South Carolina in many ways is eons ahead than Maine , yet it is more from the old school of what Maine used to be like 25 years ago , I guess I am a South Carolinian now, As i can still come and visit, I just got to remember to buy my cigarettes down here as I cannot afford to buy them up there ,(A little humor)
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David ( imengr@aol.com ) -- Portland, ME
11/27/03 -- 04:25:09 PM

Spend summers in Maine and winters in Alabama. Any Mainers in the Mobile area?
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Alice Carleton ( wacalice@aol.com ) -- Rochester, MI
11/27/03 -- 06:00:49 AM

Hi,my fellow exiles...Alice here..I was born in Old Town---left to join the army--As for what I miss the most-----everything--honest, witty people, food, breathtaking land and ocean.....People ask me where I get my wit and guts--it's from Maine..in the genes: quick little story of an ancestor: Captain Sam: in 1776, at 80 years old, he fought the British singlehandedly--killed 3 of them; they beat him, bayoneted him, stabbed him 14 times, shot off half his face....when the townspeople came to retreive his "dead" body, he was still full of fight, trying to load his musket---lived to be 96 yrs. old....   Sincerely, Alice (Born standin up and talkin back, just like my fellow Mainers!)  
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Randall Alexander ( ralexan394@aol.com ) -- Bermbach, GERMANY
11/26/03 -- 02:10:16 PM

I just read through a bunch of the messages posted and got a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye.  Just waiting for my wife to finish her career and my kids to finish school and then we have no more ties to this unforsaken country.  Don't get me wrong, waking up in the morning and looking out my window and seeing a Castle in the distance is quite beautiful, but it's not Maine.  I live in a small farming town 30 miles north of Frankfurt and drive 25 miles to work (the locals think I'm crazy) then I tell them about the distances between going from here to get to there in Maine they somewhat understand.  I read the message from someone about putting plastic around the foundation, my dad always used tar paper, slats, and bricks to hold it down until enough snow fell to keep it from flappin' in the wind.  Storm windows went up in September and down in April.  My parents still live in the house my father was born in and I lived my first 18 years, I just love going back and visit. I've been here before trying to find anyone from the Farmington area that may be close or wish to exchange e-mails, but haven't had much success.  It really gets lonely when I think about Maine, I have a couple of co-workers that understand though it's just not the same.

I was born and raised in West Farmington, graduated in '73 and joined the Army, I left the Military in '94.  My son and one of my daughters live in the states somewhere (someplace other than Maine) and my other two daughters live here. 

I still work for the U.S. Army over here and all our soldiers are dodging bullets over in Iraq.  They are scheduled to come back in April, except for a few.  I have two nephews over there too, my heart and prayers go out to everyone over there and wish for their safe return.  Once they return we begin to draw down the Military post here and send the soldiers back to the U.S..
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L. Paul Chamberland ( Leo.Chamberland@docer.af.mil ) Presque Isle, ME
11/26/03 -- 12:57:22 PM

The Chamberlands are not long for the county of Delabodia (aka Delaware).  We will be liberated from exile in 3 years, one month and four days.  It gives me extreme pleasure to know that coming into the new year, "04", we'll be under the three year mark.  My hope is the curse will be lifted in an expeditious mannor.  Not wishing my life away, ain't no life down here in the sub-tropics.  Living out of Maine is much like having a venereal disease for which there is no cure, or like being Canadian, same difference I suppose.  Don't get me wrong, I like our Canadian neighbors, so long as they stay there anyway.  Gonna be good to get back to the country of Maine and leave this evil Republic behind.  See ya in three good people.

Semper Fi

L. Paul Chamberland
Exile from Hell
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Ruth Lind ( kc2gxq@arrl.net ) -- Sugar Grove, PA
11/26/03 -- 12:04:17 PM

At least in Maine, the SUN comes out in the winter! Out here in northwestern Pennsylvania, we don't see it from November through mid-May. Lake effect keeps things overcast and dull for months at a time. I have to drive the 13 hours east to get my fix. Well, that's one excuse...
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J. T. R. -- Columbus, OHIO
11/26/03 -- 11:09:41 AM

To Michele I (regarding those cute kitties under the tree),
I thought I was the only one! I have always loved that commercial and think of it all the time this time of year!
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P. B. -- Rochester, MN
11/26/03 -- 10:05:46 AM

michelle, thanks for the memories...i also loved that commercial where the cat spills the milk and plays in the tree...you just brought a smile to my face...happy thanksgiving to all...
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Paula -- Rochester, NY
11/26/03 -- 09:27:29 AM

It's been awhile since I've visited this site. I'm originally from the County (Presque Isle) and don't get back to P.I. often.  It's a long haul up there from NY! But I do love southern Maine and get back to Cape Porpoise every October for a week. It's my favorite place to be.  Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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